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Thread Delphi 2006 = YUCK!
Thu, Jan 26 2006 9:13 AMPermanent Link

"Craig Clemans"
Roy Lambert wrote:

>
> Its sufficiently different that it makes me wonder if I should bother

Roy:

Delphi 7 and it's IDE is still worth keeping. Haven't seen anything
better.  But we all need to move on at some point. I'll stop using it
when Tim and other third party vendors stop supporting it. Smile

One thing that I don't like about the IDE in BDS2006 (if I may add
this), is that to switch from the form to the code, you have to press
F12, you cannot mouse click the unit and you cannot move the form.  It
is always in the upper left portion. Haven't gotten used to that
either.  This hasn't changed from D2005.

I'm sure to play with the IDE layout until I get one that I really
like or at least get used to.


Craig
Delphi Source Code for Accounting Systems
www.ledgeraccounting.com
Thu, Jan 26 2006 9:46 AMPermanent Link

"B Miller"
Craig,

There are 3 tabs at the bottom of the design window: Code, Design, History.
You can just click on the code or design to toggle back and forth.  Since I
almost always us F12 I didn't find them until you mentioned that there
wasn't a way to toggle with the mouse.

Roy,
I just discovered the History tab when I found the Code and Design tabs.
Each file version is saved so you can revert back to any one of them.  You
can also compare the changes made from one to the next.  Add this to my list
of "likes" for D2006.

Regards,
Bill Miller

Thu, Jan 26 2006 10:12 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Bill

>I just discovered the History tab when I found the Code and Design tabs.
>Each file version is saved so you can revert back to any one of them. You
>can also compare the changes made from one to the next. Add this to my list
>of "likes" for D2006.

That sounded like a major plus point until I thought "argh all my mistakes and cock ups saved!" Smiley

Roy Lambert
Thu, Jan 26 2006 10:31 AMPermanent Link

Sean McCall
Craig,

I don't like the categorized object list either, but you can
change it back. Right click & select Arrange, by Name.

Sean

Craig Clemans wrote:
> Scott Martin wrote:
>
>
>>Roy,
>>
>>Just curious ...
>>
>>Can I ask why you are thinking about making the plunge? I myself have
>>thought about it, but when I really think about it, all of my
>>customers are still in the Win32 world and plan to be there for a
>>while. Not sure if my upgrade would just give me the quick rush of
>>something new, then back to the daily grind of creating what I now do
>>in D7.
>>
>>Do you get any requests for .NET, or do you just want the latest and
>>greatest! (I usually do Wink
>>
>>Anyone else can chime in here as well Wink
>>
>
>
> Scott:
>
> BDS2006 is far better than D2005.  For one, the install has separate
> shortcuts for each flavor you select to install.  i.e. BDS2006 Win32,
> .Net, and C#, etc........  (I only have used the Win32 option so far.)
>
> The IDE is basicly the same as D2005, the component selection is a
> pain, I much rather have them back up on the toolbar and not take up
> all the space it does.  Come to think of it, the object inspector is
> categorized, I am still getting used to that.  Nothing is where it used
> to be. Smile
>
> In the end, BDS2006 is worth the plunge from what I have seen.  Moving
> from D7 (99% of my time) to 2006 is in my future. Smile
>
>
> Craig
>
> Delphi Source Code for Accounting Systems
> www.ledgeraccounting.com
Thu, Jan 26 2006 10:32 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Bill


Is the Object TreeView still around? I can't see it on Craig's picture.

Roy Lambert
Thu, Jan 26 2006 10:39 AMPermanent Link

Sean McCall
Jon (& anyone else),

What are the form properties you use (eg pixelsperinch &
scaled), do you use large fonts, and what size is your
monitor (I have a 17" lcd monitor)?

I am guessing that what you do is use ordinary fonts & keep
the maximum size of a designed form to 640x480 pixels... is
this how you're doing it?

Thanks,

Sean

Jon Lloyd Duerdoth wrote:

> Sean
> At the convincing of a DBISAMer, I went for a 1600 by 1200 screen a
> year or so back.  I wouldn't trade it in for anything as it gives you
> all that extra space.  I just make sure the form width and height
> match my target size when I set them up in the IDE.  Seems to work
> just fine.  As a finally check, I always set the screen size
> to the lower resolution but usually find that there's no problems.
>
> Jon
>
> Sean McCall wrote:
>
>> Roy,
>>
>> Borland still hasn't solved the problem I am having (the case is open
>> and the last response I got was well over a week ago).I'm hanging on
>> to D6 at least until I hear back.
>>
>> I don't know what D7 looks like, but I know coming from D6 the IDE is
>> a big change. I do my development in 640x480 to make sure my forms
>> size correctly on any system and in D2006 the IDE is too crowded to
>> view much code at that setting. I think I'll need to sort the screen
>> sizing issues out and get a much bigger monitor before I make the
>> switch. Of course, I just don't have a lot of time to do that right now.
>>
>> Anyway, others have said that after getting used to the new IDE they
>> like D2006 and I think I'm just the lucky 1 in 1000 who has had
>> install problems.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> Roy Lambert wrote:
>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> How are you getting on with D2006 now? I'm thinking of taking the
>>> plunge and upgrading from D6 myself.
>>>
>>> Roy Lambert
>>>
Thu, Jan 26 2006 11:02 AMPermanent Link

Sean McCall
Roy,

I never used the TreeView, but they have a Structure viewer
which looks like its the Object TreeView when you are in
design mode. When in code editing mode, the structure shows
the classes, uses, etc.

Sean

Roy Lambert wrote:

> Bill
>
>
> Is the Object TreeView still around? I can't see it on Craig's picture.
>
> Roy Lambert
>
Thu, Jan 26 2006 11:45 AMPermanent Link

Roy Lambert

NLH Associates

Team Elevate Team Elevate

Sean


I don't exactly use it much but its great for getting back to the form to edit its properties, especially when there's no blank area of the form to click on.

Roy Lambert
Thu, Jan 26 2006 1:46 PMPermanent Link

"Craig Clemans"
Sean McCall wrote:

> Craig,
>
> I don't like the categorized object list either, but you can change
> it back. Right click & select Arrange, by Name.
>
> Sean


Sean:

THANKS!  I didn't think to check that out.  


Craig
Delphi Source Code for Accounting Systems
www.ledgeraccounting.com
Thu, Jan 26 2006 1:46 PMPermanent Link

"Craig Clemans"
Roy Lambert wrote:

> Bill
>
>
> Is the Object TreeView still around? I can't see it on Craig's
> picture.
>
> Roy Lambert

Roy:

It's there, I don't use it.  I have a couple third party IDE packages
that help me get around. Smile

Craig
Delphi Source Code for Accounting Systems
www.ledgeraccounting.com
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