"Fred H." <blue@dhfvr.com> wrote in message
news:82379FC0-B5A3-4649-ADA0-1F0801B3C294@news.elevatesoft.com...
> On the forum bit, just giving you guys my feedback on that and outlining
> the clear
> advantages over NNTP these days.  As in any business..it's important to
> keep up with the
> times.....and the competition.
>

If u call vBulletin keeping up with the times its
been around for years.
I think u found it liked it and now u wanna convert
us all. I have, it its not as good as u say phpBB is
better and free.
Sorry I prefer OE as for editing dont be to keen to
post read it 1st. If u make mistakes post them below.
Tim why dont u use Firebird
Rita

Fred,

<< On the forum bit, just giving you guys my feedback on that and outlining
the clear advantages over NNTP these days.  As in any business..it's
important to keep up with the times.....and the competition. >>

We've always considered the fact that we use actual NNTP newsgroups as a
competitive *advantage*, not a disadvantage.  However, I have noted your
issues with the web forums, and will see about addressing them.

<< Yeah, I use Kasperky here...back then v7 and now v8 and the site has
always been slow for me as a whole; and yep...practically every page hangs -
it's really strange as I can't think of any site I typically go to that acts
this way.  I'll disable Kaspersky and see what happens and report back.
I've got a 2nd laptop as well...will try the same thing and let you know
what happens. >>

I believe Kaspersky is one of the products that has caused issues.  And, if
you look at our web pages, there is a little W3C HTML 4.01 button on the
bottom left-hand side of each page that you can click to determine the
compliance of our HTML, if you have any concerns about a specific page.

--
Tim Young
Elevate Software
www.elevatesoft.com

Fred,

I use vB for our company's support community.  In some regards, it would be
nice to see Elevate migrate to that direction, then again, I don't think
there is anything wrong with the newsgroups.  With the corrent vB, its
easier to automate postings for announcements of new versions, where as its
easy to automate a newsgroup post.

It certainly would provide an easier moderation to limit certain groups to
be accessable to paying customers vs prospective customers as well as
clamping down on competition viewing postings.  However, I've never seen an
indication from Tim that it has ever been an issue.

It may be more "Web 2.0" and provide some more features, but I wouldn't
necessarily say that Elevate is "in the dark ages" by the fact that they are
using Newsgroups.

Lance Rasmussen

"Fred H." <blue@dhfvr.com> wrote in message
news:EA2F3C7B-3095-4F3D-A3BD-8CC7E3198A14@news.elevatesoft.com...
> Roy/Tim - as a side note from my other thread....I'd like to suggest you
> guys to seriously
> consider going to a modern Forum system like vBulletin.
>
> I use vBulletin for 2 forums and the latest versions are great, secure and
> stable....and
> just an overall great experience for the end user (and easier to read and
> follow).
>
> Let me know if you have any questions about it, but it would be a real
> nice move and the
> cost is really not that much.
>
> www.vbulletin.com
>
>
> As well....I don't know if it's me....but I find the website is very slow
> and often have
> to do alot of refreshes to get the page up!  It's been like this for a
> long time...and
> having moved into a rental with a completely different internet
> connection, I'm still
> getting a big lag on this website.
>
> Cheers,
> Fred
>
>
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The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com

Well...with all this discussion, I'm (grudgingly) back to using
XanaNews.  I'm about to install it on on my Vista lappie as well...I
hope it works!

BTW - has anyone taken the source and updated XanaNews?  The last
update I have found that Colin did was v1.18.1.6 (2006).

Don't get me wrong, Lance...I'm not saying that Elevate is in the "dark
ages" because of NNTP....what I am saying, though, is as compared to
evolving modern ways for the public to passively communicate with each
other via the internet/web (like vB, phpBB, etc)...these surely go
above and beyond in features what Usenet always had to offer - security
(like protecting email addresses!!!), more personal, user experience,
flexibility of customizing a board and everything else I said
previously (you know!) + they typically fit perfectly into a site
structure/design.

In fact...I use this outfit for my domain server and their main website
IS a vB board! (albeit an older version) www.httpme.com

You bring up another great feature, though, Lance - securing part of a
forum from the public that could only be for registered users of a
company (Elevate in this case).  Like you said...very handy esp. for
outfits wanting to protect certain discussions from roaming eyes and to
keep issues closer to home.

I haven't been keeping up with UseNet like I used to years ago, but I
did notice with the advent of GrabIt! back then there's been alot of
focus in UseNet for downloading binaries from the newsgroups and alot
less on News Readers.

I would put money down that a very small percentage of folks out there
know even what Usenet is anymore...esp. the younger folks, which should
surely be part of the "potential customer" list esp. since Delphi is
very much geared towards hobbyists and smaller and up & coming
developers.

Maybe as a Marketing Major, I'm just guilty of taking more of a notice
of things like this and therefore (too) passionate I guess esp. for
companies that I really enjoy supporting and see that something like
this could help in its marketing efforts.  Contrary to Rene accused me
of - I'm not shoving this down anyone's throat - I'm just trying to
make a good argument "for" this other medium.  It's not my company nor
is it my decision - I'm just trying to make aware of all the advantages.

With the release of ElevateDB, though....I see alot of folks like me
are having quite a hard time understanding this new structure and way
of doing things as compared to DBISAM, so anything to help us and
potential customers...will surely help Elevate.

Even doing tutorial videos would help!  Shoot...you experts (Team
Elevate) should be able to whip out videos in no time!  Take those
videos and put them on the site....AND on YouTube.  Anything to get
your name out there more and for folks to have easy, quick access to
stuff like that - is always a good thing.

TIM - I apologize for the long post...when I get going...I really get
going.  And PLEASE do not take this thread the wrong way...I mean no
disrespect, I'm not going anywhere....just making a suggestion and the
advantages.  Of course, that's my personal view and not everyone agrees
with it - same goes vice-versa.

Cheers,
Fred


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Lance Rasmussen [Team Elevate] wrote:

> Fred,
>
> I use vB for our company's support community.  In some regards, it
> would be nice to see Elevate migrate to that direction, then again, I
> don't think there is anything wrong with the newsgroups.  With the
> corrent vB, its easier to automate postings for announcements of new
> versions, where as its easy to automate a newsgroup post.
>
> It certainly would provide an easier moderation to limit certain
> groups to be accessable to paying customers vs prospective customers
> as well as clamping down on competition viewing postings.  However,
> I've never seen an indication from Tim that it has ever been an issue.
>
> It may be more "Web 2.0" and provide some more features, but I
> wouldn't necessarily say that Elevate is "in the dark ages" by the
> fact that they are using Newsgroups.
>
> Lance Rasmussen
>
> "Fred H." <blue@dhfvr.com> wrote in message
> news:EA2F3C7B-3095-4F3D-A3BD-8CC7E3198A14@news.elevatesoft.com...
> > Roy/Tim - as a side note from my other thread....I'd like to
> > suggest you  guys to seriously consider going to a modern Forum
> > system like vBulletin.
> >
> > I use vBulletin for 2 forums and the latest versions are great,
> > secure and  stable....and just an overall great experience for the
> > end user (and easier to read and  follow).
> >
> > Let me know if you have any questions about it, but it would be a
> > real  nice move and the cost is really not that much.
> >
> > www.vbulletin.com
> >
> >
> > As well....I don't know if it's me....but I find the website is
> > very slow  and often have to do alot of refreshes to get the page
> > up!  It's been like this for a  long time...and having moved into a
> > rental with a completely different internet  connection, I'm still
> > getting a big lag on this website.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
> > signature database 3925 (20090311) __________
> >
> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
> >
> > http://www.eset.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus
> signature database 3925 (20090311) __________
>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com

Fred

>In fact...I use this outfit for my domain server and their main website
>IS a vB board! (albeit an older version) www.httpme.com

Your domain is interesting if as I'm guessing its the back part of your email address. What do those two characters mean?

>Maybe as a Marketing Major

Ahhh - that explains everything <vbg>

Roy Lambert

ps no one in Team Elevate is paid so if you're offering  to donate kit and software I'd be happy to make a video - I just refuse to accept the consequences of people seeing my face.

> Your domain is interesting if as I'm guessing its the back part of
> your email address. What do those two characters mean?


huh? which characters are you talking about?


> > Maybe as a Marketing Major
>
> Ahhh - that explains everything <vbg>


LOL! [ Fred lightly bops Roy on head ]


>
> Roy Lambert
>
> ps no one in Team Elevate is paid so if you're offering  to donate
> kit and software I'd be happy to make a video - I just refuse to
> accept the consequences of people seeing my face.


You're right...I wouldn't want to see what you look like either! j/k!!

nah man..I'm talking about just doing Tutorial Videos of the screen
with voice (or no voice even) - you can see a BUNCH on YouTube
demonstrating software and such.

Here are a couple of free ones I know of, though...or you can check out
the shareware/freeware sites for others:

wink - http://www.debugmode.com/wink/

camstudio - http://camstudio.org/

softpedia - video recorders:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Video-Recording/

I managed to get on the Camtasia v3 free offering that TechSmith goofed
up on in 2007 (pretty much the defacto screen recorder today).  The
news got out quickly and by the time they pulled the plug on it...it
was already all over the web. LOL

http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/11/22/techsmith-offers-free-camtasia-s
tudio-download/

"Fred H." <blue@dhfvr.com> wrote in message
news:F023E3C9-B27A-43BB-BB02-F49A1E0E4286@news.elevatesoft.com...

> IS a vB board! (albeit an older version) www.httpme.com

Scandalous do people really pay this much ?
6 GB Disk Space
120 GB Transfer
WHM / CPanel
Unlimited Domains
$75.00/month

Rita

Fred


>> Your domain is interesting if as I'm guessing its the back part of
>> your email address. What do those two characters mean?
>
>
>huh? which characters are you talking about?
>

In the post headers your address comes from the domain dhfvr.com. Preface it with www. and you get what seems to be a one page website with two Chinese (Japanese?) characters.

Roy Lambert

If you want super, quick support, virtually no downtime, great speed,
and full control....then a resounding: YES

they are basically the top-tier in hosting/server space, meaning...all
those other host companies that offer less space per whatever...use
companies like HttpMe to host and resell.  They don't cater to the
average joe wanting a host.

it's not scandolous, Rita...you really get what you pay for (trust
me...I've learned the hard way). Other hosts might give you more
space/dollar, but they also max out the server you're on with alot of
other clients...therefore creating instability and slowness on the
server.  Not so with outfits like HttpMe.

Here's another reseller host; this is the new host for the guy that
started HttpMe - he sold HttpMe out to a guy in California several
years back: http://www.dotable.com - notice the similar setup.

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Rita wrote:

>
> "Fred H." <blue@dhfvr.com> wrote in message
> news:F023E3C9-B27A-43BB-BB02-F49A1E0E4286@news.elevatesoft.com...
>
> > IS a vB board! (albeit an older version) www.httpme.com
>
> Scandalous do people really pay this much ?
> 6 GB Disk Space
> 120 GB Transfer
> WHM / CPanel
> Unlimited Domains
> $75.00/month
>
> Rita

shoot Roy....I forgot I had that up there!

the chinese characters mean "double happiness". I used to live in
Singapore and Thailand...my wife eventually joined me after a 3 year
long-distance relationship while she was finishing up college.

dhfvr is just a little lovey dovey thing between my wife and I that we
started some time after I moved there - and sent love faxes to each
other (no email at the time). =D

Anyway...we needed a domain exclusively for personal stuff (mainly
emails) and I settled on registering that for us to use.  I'm a
recovering domain addict...I only own 50 domains now. ;|


--



Roy Lambert wrote:

> Fred
>
>
> >> Your domain is interesting if as I'm guessing its the back part of
> >> your email address. What do those two characters mean?
> >
> >
> > huh? which characters are you talking about?
> >
>
> In the post headers your address comes from the domain dhfvr.com.
> Preface it with www. and you get what seems to be a one page website
> with two Chinese (Japanese?) characters.
>
> Roy Lambert